Mar 10 2009Let's Try This Fantastic Four Thing Again

Just don't cast Dane Cook as Johnny Storm and we'll be fine. I'll put my vote in for Jeremy Irons as Doom; we don't really need to see his face but I can't think of a cooler voice for our favorite Latverian monarch.

i'm not gonna lie - i actually really liked the two FF movies. but i also think the franchise could certainly handle a reboot. just as long as they're making FF movies, it's fine by me.

Seriously how many movies are they "re-tooling" nowdays? First Batman, which was needed, but then Hulk (second one still sucked) and possibly Superman and now FF? What's next, the Matrix, but with a less dopey, gloomier Neo? I know, let's retool Terminator with a terminator that isn't suspiciously Austrian....

Here's an idea - get it right the first time. Why would anyone invest time in becoming a fan of any movie, when in a few years it's going to be remade "darker" with a new cast?

Ok, with all the great storylines Marvel has, why would they waste their time with this?? The fans didn't embrace it, the true comic geeks didn't embrace it. So why waste the money?
I won't even download this garbage.
And this "rebooting" of all these franchises; I agree with Bill: get it right the first time. We don't need to see a reboot every 3 years. Nothing is sacred anymore.

Ya know what needs re-tooling?

FRIGGIN HOLLYWOOD NEEDS RE-TOOLING!

Many don't realize that these 2 FF movies WERE the re-tooling.

There was a fantastic four movie that went straight to video. It was sucktacular.

There's NOTHING wrong with these movies!

Personally I just want to see Doctor Doom done properly instead of some kind of metal-morphing Magneto-esque pointless romantic rival....

You mean Thing won't say, "My bad" ?

I'm sure Marvel can utilize about a million other comics to make into a movie, I guess every 5 years, they're going to re-make the same failed property over and over again.

Opinion: This whole "rebooting" thing is getting waaaay out of hand. I won't get into it, though, since this'll just go into the real problem which is that there is no original stuff out there. Only remakes and "based off of's" and reboots. To be honest I didn't "hate" FF. They weren't great but they weren't horrible. What exactly ARE the prerequisets to "reboot" something?

"Oops! Bob, I actually meant for him to be wearing gloves in this scene."

"Well, John, we do actually have a shot recorded with the gloves so we could always release a directors cut."

"NO! Don't be stupid! We'll just start the whole thing over again!"

I'm all for a remake or even a reboot every now and then. And, hell! I love all these comic movies being released! But this is really out of hand now. Over the weekend I was watching Innerspace and I almost cried. I thought to myself, What has happened to these movies? Where are they? Where are the directors who get a funny idea in their head (even if it was sparked from another movie) and decided to make something of it? There are so few taking risks. Pixar being one of the big ones making all new stories and very rarely making sequels but there really aren't many else who will do something new. *sigh* I miss the old days.

btw numbah 5, that F4 movie WAS straight to video but only if bootlegged. That movie was to never see the light of day (along with a laughable Justice League movie too). So technically, that can't be counted since the movie was never "officially" released.

however, to be completely honest, I would LOVE to see Doctor Doom done right. He was the main reason I really was turned off by the other 2 movies. Even with all those extra bells and whistles they threw on him, both of the "final battles" with doom lasted about 2 minutes. WTF?

I completely see the bubble gum aspect about the original movies.

Seriously. Jessica Alba as head of research for a tech firm? Yeah. Maybe the head of the cheerleading squad. A scientist? Puh-leeze...

Next time get an actress that has some mileage, but still looks good in spandex. Cybil Shepherd? Kathleen Turner?

But you gotta get the nerd masturbatory factor which is what they keep trying to do but keep failing at.

People would rather see semi-real but gritty.

Comic fans can suspend disbelief for powers, technology, galaxy hopping silver coated stick people on surfboards..

What they can't seem to disbelieve is that Jessica Alba could make it through a PhD program

While many of the characters could have been better cast, Chris Evans as Johnny Storm was bang on. What bothers me is that they have all these movies going on, but never do any crossovers... Johnny and Spider-man are friends and they have not interacted once in 5 movies. It doesn't have to be a team-up, but all those heroes running, flying and swinging around New York - you know they are going to run into one another!

I actually liked the acting choices that were made for all the characters in the FF movies, especially doom and johnny. That being said the movies themselves were B list at best.

It has not been long enough to consider a reboot. We need a law that says you can't even start THINKING about rebooting a franchise if it hasn't been out of theaters for at least half a decade.

No. It was disturbing when they tried to pretend Hulk never happened. But you know what? It did, Hulk DID happen. And it hurt, and I will never be the same.

I enjoyed the Ang Lee Hulk movie. I don't get all that hate directed at it. It was nothing compared to the newer one, though.

i'm fine with them rebooting any franchise, as long as they make it DARKER. yeah, that's what fans want. darkness. not quite "dark knight"-dark, but still pretty dark. like one of those other comic book movies that was kind of dark. the one's with good reviews and that made money. do it THAT kind of dark. Just a little dark, like... you know, just before dusk dark. also, i HATE bubble gum. no bubble gum in this movie.

I grew up reading FF and I liked the first movie. My biggest "problem" with it was what they did with Doom (which is what they do with a lot of costumed badguys in comic book movies). Hello Hollywood? Notice how the Green Goblin and Dr. Octupus were outlandish yet mostly true to the comic? How did Spidey movies #1 & 2 do? So next time you have an awesome villain with a gypsy/black magic & head of eastern european country story DON'T make him some rich business man who turns into a third-rate Magneto!!!
And, yeah Jessica Alba as a scientist (and as a blonde) required some suspension of disbelief. But Reed, Johnny & Ben were perfect, the interplay captured the comic, and both movies were pretty damn fun.
#12 - Word. Why not have Tony Stark have a brief video consult with Reed Richards in Ironman 2? or have Spidey swing buy the window (wouldn't even need to pay an actor - you could just use CGI or a stunt guy). Now that Marvel is making its own movie versions I'm hoping for more stuff like that.

Thank god because these movies blew donkey dongs. I used to love the FF when I was a kid but this series was just awful.

The first FF was crap. Some of the casting was okay, but whoever wrote Dr. Doom as an energy magnet needs a handicapped sticker for their car. Probably thought that there wasn't enough time to properly establish Doom as he is in the comics, as they took all that time with silly-ass scenes like snowboarding, foam on the face, shaving, grabbing toilet paper and watching motocross stunts. Re-making this movie will be a huge waste of time and money if same mentality of clowns get to write it.

WTF, Roger Corman?! He had such a piece of shit b-movie career that he was a running joke on MST3K. I would have thought no one would let the man inolved with Teenage Caveman, The Undead, or Deathstalker anywhere near a multi-million dollar movie franchise, but I guess I'd be wrong there. But I would have been right in assuming that new movie franchise would be a piece of shit.

FF the movie 3: Get rid of Ioan Gruffudd. First, can't the guy call himself "Ian Griffin" or something??? He's terrible as Reed. Reed *is* an egghead, but when the fecal matter hits the rotary oscillator, he's twelve steps ahead of assessing the foe. The rest of the FF have come to rely on him giving the strategic orders and blindly following them because he's always RIGHT. Gruffudd brings nothing near cerebral action hero to mind. He always looked to me like he had an unstable molecule wedgie.

Johnny is fine. I didn't care for Chris Evans in FF1, but he grew on me.

Sue is not a PhD candidate. She's more like a cross between June Cleaver and the Heroes cheerleader. Easy on the eyes, blindly loyal, not confident of her powers. Alba was brought in for star power and to watch her in her undies. Puh-leeeese. Find someone who can actually look and act like Sue and doesn't need CGI blue irises. How about Natasha Henstridge?

Chiklis is the hard choice. Stature-wise, he doesn't do it for me, but he's a decent actor and did the most with his costume. I'd like to see them give him a CGI voice rather than try to rough it out on his own, as his voice keeps changing. The size that Ben is (or should be) he should resonate power and having Chiklis do his own voice made the Thing sound puny. I'd really like to see Ben done like Hulk2 in CGI. I mean, all the other powers are done that way. Just paint him in.

Lastly, Doom. Sorry, Dr. Troy, but you suck as a villain. You're not believable as a maniacal despot. I don't even care about the bastardization of Doom's background or his powers. Those are secondary to the eyes in the mask. Doom needs to have the Willem Dafoe's Goblin eyes - crazy scary smart. Reed Richards with no morals. A guy who yearns for world power, but is cool enough to wait to get it - until the FF steps in and then he goes all bat-shit.

And yes, the battle with Doom should be EPIC. Spidey and Doc Ock battled across most of Manhattan. Doom vs. FF should at least encompass that.

Next FF villain? Easy. Annihilus. Negative Zone. Nuff Said.

I'm glad they re-did The Hulk and I am glad they are re-doing Fantastic Four. I would like to see more cross overs with the other films too... Johnny and Spidey. I mean is it that hard to get a cameo in a movie, just have Peter Parker snap a picture or give him a high five, something...

The problem that Hollywood doesn't realize is that FF sucks. I always hated the cartoon so why would I want to watch a movie about them?

If Johnny Storm was tortured to death over a trillion millenniums, that might get me to watch the third one.

The Silver Surfer couldn't rescue the second one.

JULIAN !!!!!!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I love him - (Cole,Christian.......)
he can NOT not be there !

:D

How bout making some of these movies rated R? that would deff make them not "bubble gum" anymore. Besides, how many younger kids really even read comic books anymore? It's for an older generation and they should stop trying to make big sales on toys